Leroy, FAbraini, FBeal, TDominguez-Salas, PGregorini, PabloManzano, PRowntree, Jvan Vliet, S2023-01-182022-09-292022-101751-7311https://hdl.handle.net/10182/15773We appreciate that Muñoz-Ulecia et al. (2022) have respectfully engaged in the conversation we wished to initiate with our article ‘Animal source foods in healthy, sustainable, and ethical diets’ (Leroy et al. 2022). What we are all in agreement with is that livestock agriculture should be part of future food systems, albeit in a more ethical and sustainable manner (cf. Eisler et al., 2014 on what that may look like). To which degree and how reform must take place is the next step in a debate in which there are no simple answers.3 pagesPrint-Electronicen© 2022 The Author(s). Published by Elsevier B.V. on behalf of The Animal Consortium.AnimalsAgricultureLivestockAnimalsAgricultureLivestockOther10.1016/j.animal.2022.1006441751-732X2022-10-19ANZSRC::300306 Animal welfareANZSRC::300303 Animal nutritionANZSRC::300302 Animal managementANZSRC::300210 Sustainable agricultural developmentANZSRC::30 Agricultural, veterinary and food sciencesANZSRC::31 Biological scienceshttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives